tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post5768939719422203430..comments2024-03-19T13:11:49.614-07:00Comments on Save Send Delete: Pogroms against Christians in Egypt, Mohammed Badie's Prayer Bump, Waiting for Muslims to Condemn this Slaughter, Waiting for Christian Leaders to LeadD Goskahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post-53732765748330806412013-08-20T11:37:21.594-07:002013-08-20T11:37:21.594-07:00I am sorry to say that this post is saddening me. ...I am sorry to say that this post is saddening me. I would really want to delete the incident mentioned here and all the aftermath (including this post). <br /><br />For I think that this post is essentially saying that we are not souls who have taken up a physical body in this world, but Muslim souls, Christian souls and Jew souls.<br /><br />I really do not think that violence is retaliation to violence solves issues anywhere.<br /><br />Danusha, while I can feel some of the pain, anger and fear that must have prompted you to write this post, I certainly hope that all of us can resolve the crisis using peaceful means..<br /><br />What is the use of reading a book like DTBM, when in times of crises, we go back to fear-based behaviours? This is an open question to the entire world (including me), not personally towards you, Danusha.<br /><br />For I am equally in pain....these kind of incidents happening all over make us tremble with fear, get insecure, angry and lose our peace. <br /><br />I bless the world, especially Egypt with peace and love..<br />Love,<br />SarbariSarbari's Sunshine Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08585283870090888533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post-46211141774787689902013-08-20T09:39:17.083-07:002013-08-20T09:39:17.083-07:00Liron, exactly. Liron, exactly. D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post-67071907143423581312013-08-20T09:39:05.120-07:002013-08-20T09:39:05.120-07:00Alison, thank you for these links. Do I know you? ...Alison, thank you for these links. Do I know you? May I know more about you? D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post-73290785582333681402013-08-20T09:19:53.583-07:002013-08-20T09:19:53.583-07:00Several prominent newspapers are referring to the ...Several prominent newspapers are referring to the violence against the Egyptian Christians as a "backlash." <br /><br />I ask: A backlash against what? <br /><br /><br /><br />Liron Rubinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4174606706448853915.post-10127090382010464942013-08-20T09:13:38.430-07:002013-08-20T09:13:38.430-07:00(I don't emote verbally. But I do oppose attac...(I don't emote verbally. But I do oppose attacks on people because of their religious beliefs.)<br /><br />This article: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/15/world/meast/egypt-church-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t2<br /><br />mentions moderate Muslims intervening in the attacks.<br /><br />The article mentions the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights. I looked it up (http://eipr.org/en/page/who-we-are) and included in its list of partners (http://eipr.org/en/page/our-partners) are the "Anna Lindh Foundation for the Dialogue between Cultures" (http://www.euromedalex.org/about) and "The Coalition for Sexual and Bodily Rights in Muslim Societies."<br /><br />I believe Kenan Malik is correct that even the existence of moderate Muslims does not fit the narrative, let alone their protests against extremism. So I don't expect to see a lot of articles about such things. And I expect the ones that do mention it will be like that one, just mentioning it in passing and without emphasis.<br /><br />"When I brought this up to one Muslim Palestinian friend, who now lives in Paterson, NJ, she let loose a tirade, citing conspiracy theories proving that Jews and Christians are responsible for all the problems in the Muslim world, and they deserve what they get. Muslims are innocent, blameless, she insisted. Mossad is responsible for 9-11."<br /><br />That sounds like she fell victim to "arguments are soldiers" syndrome (http://lesswrong.com/lw/gw/politics_is_the_mindkiller/): "Arguments are soldiers. Once you know which side you're on, you must support all arguments of that side, and attack all arguments that appear to favor the enemy side; otherwise it's like stabbing your soldiers in the back—providing aid and comfort to the enemy."<br /><br />All I can say is, that attitude is human nature. Unfortunately. So let's all try to fight it in ourselves.<br /><br />BTW. They just arrested Mohammed Badie: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57599287/mohammed-badie-supreme-leader-of-muslim-brotherhood-arrested-by-egypt-security-forces/<br />Alisonnoreply@blogger.com